Jul 27, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16 | #21 | |
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but i guess comming from a pve scrubs perspective you can have skills with no function at all on your bar Also...as for soi only being 11...you're dumb, teinais heat does 38 dps with soi and hmm whats teinais heat do at 14 fire? 38 beyond that mesmers are capable of much much more than "single target shutdown" so before you act like you try to know something about a profession you clearly dont will you please shut up before somebody actually takes you seriously |
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Jul 27, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25 | #22 | ||||
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Oh, and it's funny you calling me a "PvE scrub" when I only play PvP now. One question. whoru? Quote:
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Jul 27, 2008, 06:38 PM // 18:38 | #23 | |
Krytan Explorer
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Jul 27, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50 | #24 |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Well I just created a Mesmer and can tell you it is very fun so far. Granted I'm only level 14 but it never gets old sticking Empathy/Backfire on a baddy followed by Cry of Pain and then watch the kill themselves.
My .2cents, I think a Mesmer is a fun challenging class; if your are looking for that then go with Mes. |
Jul 27, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56 | #25 |
Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A little chalet outside Drok's
Guild: Natural Born Killaz
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Try either. Both can be fun to play and very effective in PvE. It will be easier to get into PUGs with an Ele, but you'll find that PUGs who don't subscribe to the "trinity" (Ele, Warrior, Monk) mind-set generally have a much higher success rate. |
Jul 28, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31 | #26 |
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Guild: Lost Haven
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I'm having fun playing both professions. Ele is fun for pure damage dealing and burning the snot out of the baddies. Mesmer is great fun for interrupting those enemy eles that are trying to nail my party and me. There's nothing like knowing I've just stopped meteor shower or fireball.
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Jul 28, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03 | #27 | |
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Belfast - Northern Ireland
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and the only good thing mesmers brough to PvE was [cry of pain] and oh..wait..any profession can use it. including ele and whoever said mesmers do more damage in hm than ele, thanks you made me laugh. If you like blowing shit up and still having mild party support, go ele. and oh that guy above me, Interrupting / Shutting down 1 target in PvE is pretty useless. |
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Jul 28, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57 | #28 |
Never Too Old
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests
Guild: Order of First
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My mesmer is my most "fun" character out of my eight active ones.
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Jul 28, 2008, 09:48 AM // 09:48 | #29 | |||
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Perhaps i should go by your logic...bring spirit shackles and price of failure to trigger dw off accumulated pain on a monk, rather than two usefull hexes like degen, or crippling anguish |
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Jul 28, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52 | #30 | |
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I'll take my mesmers pve bar against the same mob and ill prove to you that theres more dmg comming from the mesmer |
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Jul 28, 2008, 12:26 PM // 12:26 | #31 |
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Defending Fort Aspenwood
Profession: E/
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Eles are good for PvE and okay for PvP. Mesmers are not so good for PvE and very good for PvP.
A mes is harder to play than an ele because it requires quite some knowledge of the enemy. Personally I like the ele much better because of the high damage PvE spells you have. |
Jul 28, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19 | #32 | |
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I'm also guessing your BIG DPS is coming from CoP. Any ele with a brain can do more Dps than that. |
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Jul 28, 2008, 04:30 PM // 16:30 | #33 |
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southern California
Profession: R/Mo
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I like Mesmer more than the Ele as Interrupts are nice, and there is degen and also multi-target interrupts and high level dmg of single and multi targets. Do not let anyone fool you into thinking Mesmers are only single target Casters. I love interrupting ALL characters, even melee and causing them dmg if they try and use a skill and degening them as the Monk is shutdown and can't heal. Causing dmg to the whole mob or interrupting them all at once is fun too.
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Jul 28, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34 | #34 | ||||||
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Oh, and before you come up with that "lolpvescrub" shit again, why are you running an FC SoI Ele when the only big thing you get is FC, which has no bearing or good effect in PvE? Quote:
This is where the Ritualist is superior in this scenario. They have access to the same skills and not missing out anything but Fast Casting. Quote:
Oh, and I'm not calling Ele the best profession for PvE. I'm merely stating that Mesmers are inferior to all other professions for the simple reason their best skills are usable at any spec by any profession. Last edited by Tyla; Jul 28, 2008 at 04:39 PM // 16:39.. |
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Jul 28, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19 | #35 |
Wilds Pathfinder
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Guild: Order of the Setting Sun
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I have really enjoyed playing both and they are both very fun to play. If you are wanting to add farming to the list of things to do with this new character then I would have to go Ele. The Mes can farm but, I think the Ele is far better and faster at it.
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Jul 28, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38 | #36 | |||
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Sure, CoP, CoF, and Ether Nightmare are useable off any other profession, but you're missing the other usefull mesmer hexes like empathy and backfire...and if you're going to tell me you're going to run empathy and backfire off an ele then GG now(which btw are amazing skills in pve) Quote:
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Jul 28, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49 | #37 | |
Alcoholic From Yale
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Backfire is not amazing in PvE, nor will it ever be. Take this from someone who does way more PvE than is healthy these days. |
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Jul 28, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09 | #38 |
Grotto Attendant
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Location: A little chalet outside Drok's
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This topic has officially derailed.
Mesmers are fine in PvE when the player knows how to play one. |
Jul 28, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34 | #39 |
Wilds Pathfinder
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Mesmers in my opinion, can easily be the best profession in PvE if the one playing the profession can play it well.
Elementalists are pretty much the same deal as the mesmers, but groups would rather take elementalists than mesmers because they believe that the mesmer can't really do anything besides "degen" which is, of course, un-true. |
Jul 28, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15 | #40 |
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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my ele became a mule, then finally deleted after 2 1/2 years of being alive, whereas my mes is one of my 3 mains. why? because i like him :P
play what you like, and ignore the peanut gallery. you've had enough answers, and i think this thread is overbaked, so lets just give it a rest guys (btw.. who is HackingHippie712? lol) |
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